Different HMI application for web interface?

[clueless]

Documentation is extremely vague on the use of the HMI editor. It claims that web server definitions need to be done in some older application which is allegedly included in the installer - but there is no Mervis HMI in my Mervis install. I even tried reinstalling, or repairing the install, but there was no option to install Mervis HMI and there is no Mervis HMI executable
(or anything of the sort) in my installation directory. Is it deprecated? Am I supposed to install it seperately? Is it even possible to host a web interface on mervis anymore?

If there are counterintuitive steps like this, ambiguous and unclear documentation is extremely frustrating. The video tutorials are out of date, by the way, and use the Mervis HMI application.

[TomasKnot]

Hi @clueless,

The Mervis HMI interface is now included within the IDE program itself. I will pass it on to the people on the team taking care of the knowledgebase to get it updated. You should be able to find further instructions for it in the internal Mervis help manual (F1).

[clueless]

@tomasknot Does it have the functionality required to make web interfaces? The help section talks about having to use the seperate HMI editor in bold, and I wasn't able to find anything even remotely like the "export to web panel" functionality that seems to generate a webpage shown in the video tutorial here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIf4MCaLhOI&list=PL5MC9muFzmGS27IIdGRetn-ugVSn2K1RL&index=3

Regardless, I found it in the older version of mervis and installed just the HMI editor, I'm going to try to make something work with it now.

[TomasKnot]

Yes, it does have the ability to make websites, all of our HMI is web-based.

[TomasKnot]

Here is a working tutorial for the latest version: https://kb.unipi.technology/en:sw:01-mervis:creating-simple-hmi-hidden
Could you please mention where you found the tutorial which mentioned a separate HMI application? Just so we can have it taken care of.

[clueless]

@tomasknot The built in tool tips.

There doesn't seem to be anything else. Since the tool tips mention the fact that there is an integrated HMI editor I assumed them to be up to date.

[TomasKnot]

It appears that you might be using an older version of the IDE, as this is how the page looks like for me:

I am truly sorry for any inconvenience. Could you please mention which version you are using (you can find this information in "Help" - "About").

[clueless]

@tomasknot 2.1.3(74371)

Downloaded from:
https://kb.unipi.technology/files:software:mervis:00-start

[TomasKnot]

Now looking at it, it is the same page and version.

Unfortunately it's just badly worded, the HMI application is only used for legacy projects. "Web Site Definitions" is a specific feature which has been completely remade, and as such are not necessary in the new integrated HMI.

If you have a look at the tutorial I have linked above it has a simple step-by-step guide for creating an HMI from scratch in the latest version.

I will get in touch with our documentation team to see if they can help you further.

[clueless]

@tomasknot Yeah I see now, thanks.