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    How to disable and enable the 1Wire bus (M503)

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      TomasKnot last edited by

      Hopefully yes, but it really shouldn't be necessary, it's unfortunate you have to use it.

      We'll try to add it to EVOK soon.

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        rob last edited by rob

        Hi,

        I just ran into the same problem as Vesa (one wire bus suddenly lost) and I can confirm that this procedure worked, but I had to reboot the rpi afterwards.

        I wonder if the change to /etc/systemd/system/neurontcp.service is really necessary, I initially tried polling the server without modifying the file and it seemed to work anyway.

        If someone else needs this, the only cli tool to poll the modbus server I found functioning on the rpi is this one:
        https://datapacket.dl.sourceforge.net/project/mblogic/MBLogic-All/MBLogic_All_Release-32/mblogic_all_2011-04-16.zip

        You will have to set the line endings in the file to linux style, before running:
        ./pollmb.py -p 502 -u 1 -f 5 -a 1001 -q 1 -d 1
        ./pollmb.py -p 502 -u 1 -f 5 -a 1001 -q 1 -d 0

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          TomasKnot @rob last edited by TomasKnot

          @rob
          It listens on 127.0.0.1 by default. The tool is written by us (you can find the source code at http://git.unipi.technology:3000/UniPi/neuron-modbus-tools, though note that not all of our software is opensourced) so I am quite confident it is necessary. It is of course not necessary if the client software is run locally via 127.0.0.1.

          That said, the Linux libmodbus library did contain a bug where this setting was not applied correctly and ignored instead. Somewhat humorously I believe that the bug is still there in the version used on the main Debian repository (we statically link against a newer version of the modbus library instead, which does not have this issue), and as a result quite a few IoT devices likely unintentionally listen on all IPs.

          (Incidentally this issue was uncovered by DavidCozens, to give proper credit)

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          • Vesa Kauppinen
            Vesa Kauppinen @TomasKnot last edited by

            Hi @tomasknot

            I'll come back to this topic again. Is it possible to do the same for Modbus in M503? I mean reset the bus (disable/enable)

            Br,
            Vesa

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            • Martin Kudláček
              Martin Kudláček @Vesa Kauppinen last edited by

              Hello @vesa-kauppinen,
              yes, check our Modbus Registers Maps: https://kb.unipi.technology/files:products:02-neuron

              For M503 it is coil 1001 - Enable/Disable 1Wire Bus

              Best regards,
              Martin

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              • Vesa Kauppinen
                Vesa Kauppinen @Martin Kudláček last edited by Vesa Kauppinen

                @martin-kudláček

                Hi,

                That's what we've done with 1-Wire and it works.

                I mean, is it possible to do this same 'reset' for Modbus (RTU) itself? We sometimes lose a modbus device.

                Br,
                Vesa

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                • Martin Kudláček
                  Martin Kudláček @Vesa Kauppinen last edited by Martin Kudláček

                  Oh, sorry for the misunderstanding @vesa-kauppinen.

                  We have a functionality called Master Watch Dog (MWD). When enabled, the underlying HW will watch when the last communication happend. If it will be longer than the preset time, it will reboot itself. Now, this can be set per group in the PLC, and it will watch if the ModbusTCP server communicates with the given group. If not, the board will reboot. Similarly, this can be set on the extensions as well. If nothing communicates with the extension over ModbusRTU, the extension reboots itself.

                  This can be set via modbus. Look for the "Enable MWD" coil and "MWD timeout" register. The timeout is in miliseconds.

                  Best regards,
                  Martin

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                  • Vesa Kauppinen
                    Vesa Kauppinen @Martin Kudláček last edited by

                    @martin-kudláček

                    Thank you!

                    Can you give a noob example of how to set 'MWD Enable' to 1 with pollmb.py?

                    Br,
                    Vesa

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                    • Martin Kudláček
                      Martin Kudláček @Vesa Kauppinen last edited by

                      @vesa-kauppinen

                      Sorry, I've never used the pollmb.py. Would be the mbpoll example sufficient? You can install the mbpoll from our repository: apt update && apt install mbpoll

                      Martin

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                      • Vesa Kauppinen
                        Vesa Kauppinen @Martin Kudláček last edited by

                        @martin-kudláček

                        Yes. If you can give mbpoll example that would be great!

                        :)

                        Br,
                        Vesa

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                        • Martin Kudláček
                          Martin Kudláček @Vesa Kauppinen last edited by

                          @vesa-kauppinen

                          For Group 1 on M503

                          Verify the status of the MWD (if 0 - MWD disable, if 1 - MWD enabled but never rebooted, if 2 - MWD enabled and already rebooted):
                          mbpoll -m tcp -a 0 127.0.0.1 -0 -1 -r 6

                          Set the MWD timeout to 5000ms:
                          mbpoll -m tcp -a 0 127.0.0.1 -0 -r 1008 5000

                          Enable the MWD:
                          mbpoll -m tcp -a 0 127.0.0.1 -0 -r 6 1

                          Write the settings to the NVRAM:
                          mbpoll -m tcp -a 0 127.0.0.1 -0 -t 0 -r 1003 1

                          Verify the MWD by stopping the UniPi Modbus TCP server:
                          sudo systemctl stop unipitcp

                          The both lines of LEDs should blink for 1sec after the MWD timeout

                          Disable the MWD:
                          mbpoll -m tcp -a 0 127.0.0.1 -0 -r 6 0

                          Write the settings to the NVRAM:
                          mbpoll -m tcp -a 0 127.0.0.1 -0 -t 0 -r 1003 1

                          For Group 2 on M503
                          Use the MWD control register 114 instead of 6
                          Use the MWD timeout register 1108 instead of 1008
                          Use the Save configuration coil 1103 instead of 1003

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                          • Vesa Kauppinen
                            Vesa Kauppinen @Martin Kudláček last edited by

                            @martin-kudláček

                            Thanks for the good instructions! After enabling MWD, setting timeout and writing the settings:

                            mbpoll -m tcp -a 0 127.0.0.1 -0 -1 -r 6
                            mbpoll 1.2-6 - FieldTalk(tm) Modbus(R) Master Simulator
                            Copyright (c) 2015 epsilonRT, All rights reserved.
                            This software is governed by the CeCILL license <http://www.cecill.info>
                            
                            Protocol configuration: Modbus TCP
                            Slave configuration...: address = [0]
                                                    start reference = 6, count = 1
                            Communication.........: 127.0.0.1, port 502, t/o 1.00 s, poll rate 1000 ms
                            Data type.............: 16-bit register, output (holding) register table
                            
                            -- Polling slave 0...
                            [6]:    3
                            

                            ...or...

                            mbpoll -m tcp -a 0 127.0.0.1 -0 -1 -r 114
                            mbpoll 1.2-6 - FieldTalk(tm) Modbus(R) Master Simulator
                            Copyright (c) 2015 epsilonRT, All rights reserved.
                            This software is governed by the CeCILL license <http://www.cecill.info>
                            
                            Protocol configuration: Modbus TCP
                            Slave configuration...: address = [0]
                                                    start reference = 114, count = 1
                            Communication.........: 127.0.0.1, port 502, t/o 1.00 s, poll rate 1000 ms
                            Data type.............: 16-bit register, output (holding) register table
                            
                            -- Polling slave 0...
                            [114]:  3
                            

                            What does that result (3) mean? Its not 0, 1 or 2.

                            Btw

                            sudo systemctl stop unipitcp
                            

                            should be

                            sudo systemctl stop neurontcp
                            

                            in Neuron M503...right??

                            Br,
                            Vesa

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                            • Martin Kudláček
                              Martin Kudláček @Vesa Kauppinen last edited by Martin Kudláček

                              Hi @vesa-kauppinen,
                              sorry the value 3 is 1 + 2, which means board has MWD enabled and the MWD already rebooted the board.

                              The service is called unipitcp, but in older packages it was called neurontcp. The service is the same for Neurons and Axons, so we renamed it to unipitcp to make it more clear.

                              Best regards,
                              Martin

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                              • Vesa Kauppinen
                                Vesa Kauppinen @Martin Kudláček last edited by Vesa Kauppinen

                                @martin-kudláček

                                Aaaaa...of course :D

                                But what about this: either 11 or 3

                                root@residevice:~# mbpoll -m tcp -a 0 127.0.0.1 -0 -1 -r 6
                                mbpoll 1.2-6 - FieldTalk(tm) Modbus(R) Master Simulator
                                Copyright (c) 2015 epsilonRT, All rights reserved.
                                This software is governed by the CeCILL license <http://www.cecill.info>
                                
                                Protocol configuration: Modbus TCP
                                Slave configuration...: address = [0]
                                                        start reference = 6, count = 1
                                Communication.........: 127.0.0.1, port 502, t/o 1.00 s, poll rate 1000 ms
                                Data type.............: 16-bit register, output (holding) register table
                                
                                -- Polling slave 0...
                                [6]:    11
                                
                                root@residevice:~# mbpoll -m tcp -a 0 127.0.0.1 -0 -1 -r 6
                                mbpoll 1.2-6 - FieldTalk(tm) Modbus(R) Master Simulator
                                Copyright (c) 2015 epsilonRT, All rights reserved.
                                This software is governed by the CeCILL license <http://www.cecill.info>
                                
                                Protocol configuration: Modbus TCP
                                Slave configuration...: address = [0]
                                                        start reference = 6, count = 1
                                Communication.........: 127.0.0.1, port 502, t/o 1.00 s, poll rate 1000 ms
                                Data type.............: 16-bit register, output (holding) register table
                                
                                -- Polling slave 0...
                                [6]:    3
                                
                                root@residevice:~# mbpoll -m tcp -a 0 127.0.0.1 -0 -1 -r 6
                                mbpoll 1.2-6 - FieldTalk(tm) Modbus(R) Master Simulator
                                Copyright (c) 2015 epsilonRT, All rights reserved.
                                This software is governed by the CeCILL license <http://www.cecill.info>
                                
                                Protocol configuration: Modbus TCP
                                Slave configuration...: address = [0]
                                                        start reference = 6, count = 1
                                Communication.........: 127.0.0.1, port 502, t/o 1.00 s, poll rate 1000 ms
                                Data type.............: 16-bit register, output (holding) register table
                                
                                -- Polling slave 0...
                                [6]:    11
                                

                                Br,
                                Vesa

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                                • Martin Kudláček
                                  Martin Kudláček @Vesa Kauppinen last edited by

                                  @vesa-kauppinen

                                  Ok, this is a little bit tricky. The register has 16bits, and some of the bits represent some state or function.

                                  Bit 0: Set or read the status of the MWD
                                  Bit 1: The MWD rebooted the boarde
                                  other bits contain some debug information, which we haven't documented yet

                                  So value 11 in decimal is 0000 0000 0000 1011 in binary. The bit no. 0 (first from the right) is 1, which means MWD is enabled. The bit no. 1 (second from the right) is 1, which means MWD already rebooted the board. Other bits don't apply to you.

                                  You can "mask" the lowest 2 bits with boolean operation AND, typically with bit mask in hexadecimal representation:

                                  register_6 && 0x0003

                                  Or with binary mask:

                                  register_6 && 0b11

                                  I hope this helps you.
                                  Martin

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                                  • Vesa Kauppinen
                                    Vesa Kauppinen @Martin Kudláček last edited by

                                    @martin-kudláček

                                    Okay. This clarified the case :)

                                    Thank you!

                                    Br,
                                    Vesa

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                                    • Vesa Kauppinen
                                      Vesa Kauppinen @Martin Kudláček last edited by Vesa Kauppinen

                                      @martin-kudláček

                                      Hi...again

                                      One more stupid question: How do I reset 1-wire bus with mbpoll?

                                      I mean, how can i "convert" those commands:

                                      ./pollmb.py -p 502 -u 1 -f 5 -a 1001 -q 1 -d 1
                                      ./pollmb.py -p 502 -u 1 -f 5 -a 1001 -q 1 -d 0
                                      

                                      to mbpoll "format". I just don't understand how to read/write coils with mbpoll.

                                      Thank you!
                                      Vesa

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                                      • Martin Kudláček
                                        Martin Kudláček @Vesa Kauppinen last edited by

                                        Hi @vesa-kauppinen,
                                        writing 1 to coil 1001:

                                        mbpoll -m tcp -a 0 127.0.0.1 -t 0 -0 -r 1001 1

                                        Writing 0:

                                        mbpoll -m tcp -a 0 127.0.0.1 -t 0 -0 -r 1001 0

                                        You can learn more from the quite detailed help of the mbpoll:

                                        mbpoll -h

                                        Regards,
                                        Martin

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