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      pascal37 @pascal37 last edited by pascal37

      Hi @Martin-Kudláček,

      No issue after 15 days of uptime using port RS485-1.3 :

      0_1589308492689_8fae0eef-f7df-4118-aa5a-82b5300d6a28-image.png

      I switch now back to port RS485-1.1 to check if issue occurs again after 10 days...

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        tomas_hora administrators @pascal37 last edited by

        @pascal37 if it occurs again, please send the captured data on the port monitor in txt file from a longer period so we could get better overview

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          pascal37 @tomas_hora last edited by pascal37

          Hi @tomas_hora,

          The issue occured again with port RS485-1.1 just after 5 days of uptime, but sorry, I was not capturing serial data before the "crash". This is quite difficult to do: it means leave IDE open in debugging mode during up to 10 days and be able to select all the output (> 50 millions packets) !? Is there any better why to archieve that ?

          Workaround is to redeploy the solution from IDE (cold restart), and serial communication works again immedately.
          The issue is definitvely not on the RS485 bus or Inepro devices.

          I had this issue now 3 times with the port 1.1 on the Axon M525, but not with port 1.3, nor with an Axon M505.
          Since a solution deploy does not reboot the Debian OS of the PLC, the issue should be somewhere in the Mervis runtime !?

          The first time the issue occured, I did a complete reboot of the PLC, but this is not a workaround... as if a counter in the Mervis runtime is not reseted properly like a solution deploy with cold restart.

          Many thanks in advance for your help and kind regards.

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            tomas_hora administrators last edited by

            Hello @pascal37, I did not men to capture the data at the time it stops responding, but jus to get a longer period of the caputed data after it stops communicatig to find out if it's all timeout or what is going on the line.

            What should be the configuration of the RS485 (baudrate, parity, ...)

            Could you execute this command in linux while the communication stops?

            cat /run/unipi/io_group1/uart_config
            
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              pascal37 @tomas_hora last edited by pascal37

              Hi @tomas_hora,

              Issue occurred again with port RS485-1.1

              This time, a simple reboot (from Debian OS) was enough to regain data acquisition from the 3 Inepro PRO380 meters.

              Port configuration:

              serial_port_config.jpg

              cat /run/unipi/io_group1/uart_config
              9bd
              

              Data captured after communication stops working:

              09:02:36.2939 => Sending: 02 03 50 12 00 02 75 3D 
              09:02:36.3139 <= Receiving: CB EC EB 
              09:02:36.3139 Timeout
              09:02:36.3239 => Sending: 02 03 50 12 00 02 75 3D 
              09:02:36.3439 <= Receiving: CB EC EB 
              09:02:36.3439 Timeout
              09:02:36.3639 => Sending: 02 03 60 00 00 02 DA 38 
              09:02:36.3839 <= Receiving: EC EB 
              09:02:36.3839 Timeout
              09:02:36.3939 => Sending: 02 03 60 00 00 02 DA 38 
              09:02:36.4139 <= Receiving: 6D D5 
              09:02:36.4139 Timeout
              09:02:36.4239 => Sending: 02 03 60 00 00 02 DA 38 
              09:02:36.4539 <= Receiving: 6D D5 
              09:02:36.4539 Timeout
              09:02:36.4739 => Sending: 03 03 50 12 00 02 74 EC 
              09:02:36.4939 <= Receiving: 6D D5 
              09:02:36.4939 Timeout
              09:02:36.5039 => Sending: 03 03 50 12 00 02 74 EC 
              09:02:36.5359 <= Receiving: 68 5B 
              09:02:36.5359 Timeout
              09:02:36.5459 => Sending: 03 03 50 12 00 02 74 EC 
              09:02:36.5659 <= Receiving: 6F 68 5B 
              09:02:36.5659 Timeout
              09:02:36.5859 => Sending: 03 03 60 00 00 02 DB E9 
              09:02:36.6059 <= Receiving: 68 5B 
              09:02:36.6059 Timeout
              09:02:36.6159 => Sending: 03 03 60 00 00 02 DB E9 
              09:02:36.6459 <= Receiving: 3D F3 8F 
              09:02:36.6459 Timeout
              09:02:36.6559 => Sending: 03 03 60 00 00 02 DB E9 
              09:02:36.6759 <= Receiving: F3 8F 
              09:02:36.6759 Timeout
              09:02:36.7009 => Sending: 01 03 50 02 00 06 75 08 
              09:02:36.7209 <= Receiving: F3 8F 
              09:02:36.7209 Timeout
              09:02:36.7309 => Sending: 01 03 50 02 00 06 75 08 
              09:02:36.7599 <= Receiving: 43 
              09:02:36.7599 Timeout
              09:02:36.7699 => Sending: 01 03 50 02 00 06 75 08 
              09:02:36.8399 Timeout
              09:02:36.8599 => Sending: 01 03 50 12 00 02 75 0E 
              09:02:36.8599 <= Receiving: 43 73 00 00 43 
              09:02:36.8599 <= Receiving: 72 99 9A A3 
              09:02:36.8599 Wrong telegram: ???
              09:02:36.8699 => Sending: 01 03 50 12 00 02 75 0E 
              09:02:36.9399 Timeout
              09:02:36.9499 => Sending: 01 03 50 12 00 02 75 0E 
              09:02:36.9699 <= Receiving: 62 23 
              09:02:36.9699 Timeout
              09:02:36.9899 => Sending: 01 03 60 0C 00 02 1A 08 
              09:02:37.0099 <= Receiving: 62 23 
              09:02:37.0099 Timeout
              09:02:37.0199 => Sending: 01 03 60 0C 00 02 1A 08 
              09:02:37.0519 <= Receiving: 9F 
              09:02:37.0519 Timeout
              09:02:37.0619 => Sending: 01 03 60 0C 00 02 1A 08 
              09:02:37.1319 Timeout
              09:02:37.1519 => Sending: 01 03 60 18 00 02 5A 0C 
              09:02:37.1719 <= Receiving: 00 5C 
              09:02:37.1719 Timeout
              09:02:37.1819 => Sending: 01 03 60 18 00 02 5A 0C 
              09:02:37.2129 <= Receiving: 69 26 
              09:02:37.2129 Timeout
              09:02:37.2229 => Sending: 01 03 60 18 00 02 5A 0C 
              09:02:37.2429 <= Receiving: 69 26 
              09:02:37.2429 Timeout
              09:02:37.2629 => Sending: 02 03 50 12 00 02 75 3D 
              09:02:37.2829 <= Receiving: 52 69 26 
              09:02:37.2829 Timeout
              09:02:37.2929 => Sending: 02 03 50 12 00 02 75 3D 
              09:02:37.3129 <= Receiving: EA 1D 
              09:02:37.3129 Timeout
              09:02:37.3229 => Sending: 02 03 50 12 00 02 75 3D 
              09:02:37.3429 <= Receiving: EA 1D 
              09:02:37.3429 Timeout
              09:02:37.3629 => Sending: 02 03 60 00 00 02 DA 38 
              09:02:37.3839 <= Receiving: EA 1D 
              09:02:37.3839 Timeout
              09:02:37.3939 => Sending: 02 03 60 00 00 02 DA 38 
              09:02:37.4139 <= Receiving: 6D D5 
              09:02:37.4139 Timeout
              09:02:37.4239 => Sending: 02 03 60 00 00 02 DA 38 
              09:02:37.4439 <= Receiving: 6D D5 
              09:02:37.4439 Timeout
              09:02:37.4639 => Sending: 03 03 50 12 00 02 74 EC 
              09:02:37.4849 <= Receiving: 6D D5 
              09:02:37.4849 Timeout
              09:02:37.4949 => Sending: 03 03 50 12 00 02 74 EC 
              09:02:37.5159 <= Receiving: 68 5B 
              09:02:37.5159 Timeout
              09:02:37.5259 => Sending: 03 03 50 12 00 02 74 EC 
              09:02:37.5459 <= Receiving: 68 5B 
              09:02:37.5459 Timeout
              09:02:37.5659 => Sending: 03 03 60 00 00 02 DB E9 
              09:02:37.5859 <= Receiving: 68 5B 
              09:02:37.5859 Timeout
              09:02:37.5959 => Sending: 03 03 60 00 00 02 DB E9 
              09:02:37.6279 <= Receiving: F3 8F 
              09:02:37.6279 Timeout
              09:02:37.6628 => Sending: 03 03 60 00 00 02 DB E9 
              09:02:37.6828 <= Receiving: F3 8F 
              09:02:37.6828 Timeout
              09:02:37.7088 => Sending: 01 03 50 02 00 06 75 08 
              09:02:37.7288 <= Receiving: F3 8F 
              09:02:37.7288 Timeout
              09:02:37.7388 => Sending: 01 03 50 02 00 06 75 08 
              09:02:37.7708 <= Receiving: 43 73 
              09:02:37.7708 Timeout
              09:02:37.7808 => Sending: 01 03 50 02 00 06 75 08 
              09:02:37.8508 Timeout
              09:02:37.8708 => Sending: 01 03 50 12 00 02 75 0E 
              09:02:37.8708 <= Receiving: CD 43 73 00 00 
              09:02:37.8708 <= Receiving: 43 72 99 9A 
              09:02:37.8708 Wrong telegram: ???
              09:02:37.8808 => Sending: 01 03 50 12 00 02 75 0E 
              09:02:37.9508 Timeout
              09:02:37.9608 => Sending: 01 03 50 12 00 02 75 0E 
              09:02:37.9808 <= Receiving: 62 23 
              09:02:37.9808 Timeout
              09:02:38.0008 => Sending: 01 03 60 0C 00 02 1A 08 
              09:02:38.0218 <= Receiving: 62 23 
              09:02:38.0218 Timeout
              09:02:38.0318 => Sending: 01 03 60 0C 00 02 1A 08 
              09:02:38.0628 <= Receiving: 00 5C 
              09:02:38.0628 Timeout
              09:02:38.0728 => Sending: 01 03 60 0C 00 02 1A 08 
              09:02:38.0928 <= Receiving: 00 5C 
              09:02:38.0928 Timeout
              09:02:38.1128 => Sending: 01 03 60 18 00 02 5A 0C 
              09:02:38.1338 <= Receiving: 00 5C 
              09:02:38.1338 Timeout
              09:02:38.1438 => Sending: 01 03 60 18 00 02 5A 0C 
              09:02:38.1638 <= Receiving: 69 26 
              09:02:38.1638 Timeout
              09:02:38.1738 => Sending: 01 03 60 18 00 02 5A 0C 
              09:02:38.1938 <= Receiving: 69 26 
              09:02:38.1938 Timeout
              09:02:38.2138 => Sending: 02 03 50 12 00 02 75 3D 
              09:02:38.2338 <= Receiving: 69 26 
              09:02:38.2338 Timeout
              09:02:38.2438 => Sending: 02 03 50 12 00 02 75 3D 
              09:02:38.2638 <= Receiving: EA 1D 
              09:02:38.2638 Timeout
              09:02:38.2738 => Sending: 02 03 50 12 00 02 75 3D 
              09:02:38.2938 <= Receiving: EA 1D 
              09:02:38.2938 Timeout
              09:02:38.3138 => Sending: 02 03 60 00 00 02 DA 38 
              09:02:38.3338 <= Receiving: EA 1D 
              09:02:38.3338 Timeout
              09:02:38.3438 => Sending: 02 03 60 00 00 02 DA 38 
              09:02:38.3638 <= Receiving: 6D D5 
              09:02:38.3638 Timeout
              09:02:38.3738 => Sending: 02 03 60 00 00 02 DA 38 
              09:02:38.4048 <= Receiving: 6D D5 
              09:02:38.4048 Timeout
              09:02:38.4248 => Sending: 03 03 50 12 00 02 74 EC 
              09:02:38.4448 <= Receiving: 6D D5 
              09:02:38.4448 Timeout
              09:02:38.4548 => Sending: 03 03 50 12 00 02 74 EC 
              09:02:38.4748 <= Receiving: 68 5B 
              09:02:38.4748 Timeout
              09:02:38.4848 => Sending: 03 03 50 12 00 02 74 EC 
              09:02:38.5158 <= Receiving: 68 5B 
              09:02:38.5158 Timeout
              09:02:38.5358 => Sending: 03 03 60 00 00 02 DB E9 
              09:02:38.5558 <= Receiving: 68 5B 
              09:02:38.5558 Timeout
              09:02:38.5658 => Sending: 03 03 60 00 00 02 DB E9 
              09:02:38.5858 <= Receiving: F3 8F 
              09:02:38.5858 Timeout
              09:02:38.5958 => Sending: 03 03 60 00 00 02 DB E9 
              09:02:38.6158 <= Receiving: F3 8F 
              09:02:38.6158 Timeout
              09:02:38.6408 => Sending: 01 03 50 02 00 06 75 08 
              09:02:38.6608 <= Receiving: F3 8F 
              09:02:38.6608 Timeout
              09:02:38.6708 => Sending: 01 03 50 02 00 06 75 08 
              09:02:38.7028 <= Receiving: CD 
              09:02:38.7028 Timeout
              09:02:38.7128 => Sending: 01 03 50 02 00 06 75 08 
              09:02:38.7828 Timeout
              09:02:38.8028 => Sending: 01 03 50 12 00 02 75 0E 
              09:02:38.8028 <= Receiving: 43 73 19 9A 43 
              09:02:38.8028 <= Receiving: 72 B3 33 26 
              09:02:38.8028 Wrong telegram: ???
              09:02:38.8128 => Sending: 01 03 50 12 00 02 75 0E 
              09:02:38.8828 Timeout
              09:02:38.8928 => Sending: 01 03 50 12 00 02 75 0E 
              Free space in internal port monitor buffer: 59.7 kB
              09:02:38.9628 Timeout
              09:02:38.9828 => Sending: 01 03 60 0C 00 02 1A 08 
              09:02:39.0028 <= Receiving: 1B EE 
              09:02:39.0028 Timeout
              09:02:39.0128 => Sending: 01 03 60 0C 00 02 1A 08 
              09:02:39.0448 <= Receiving: 00 5C 
              09:02:39.0448 Timeout
              09:02:39.0548 => Sending: 01 03 60 0C 00 02 1A 08 
              09:02:39.0748 <= Receiving: 00 5C 
              09:02:39.0748 Timeout
              09:02:39.0948 => Sending: 01 03 60 18 00 02 5A 0C 
              09:02:39.1148 <= Receiving: 00 5C 
              09:02:39.1148 Timeout
              09:02:39.1512 => Sending: 01 03 60 18 00 02 5A 0C 
              09:02:39.1712 <= Receiving: 69 26 
              09:02:39.1712 Timeout
              09:02:39.1812 => Sending: 01 03 60 18 00 02 5A 0C 
              09:02:39.2012 <= Receiving: 69 26 
              09:02:39.2012 Timeout
              09:02:39.2212 => Sending: 02 03 50 12 00 02 75 3D 
              09:02:39.2412 <= Receiving: 69 26 
              09:02:39.2412 Timeout
              09:02:39.2512 => Sending: 02 03 50 12 00 02 75 3D 
              09:02:39.2712 <= Receiving: EA 1D 
              09:02:39.2712 Timeout
              09:02:39.2812 => Sending: 02 03 50 12 00 02 75 3D 
              09:02:39.3012 <= Receiving: EA 1D 
              09:02:39.3012 Timeout
              09:02:39.3212 => Sending: 02 03 60 00 00 02 DA 38 
              09:02:39.3422 <= Receiving: EA 1D 
              09:02:39.3422 Timeout
              09:02:39.3522 => Sending: 02 03 60 00 00 02 DA 38 
              09:02:39.3722 <= Receiving: 9A 6D D5 
              09:02:39.3722 Timeout
              09:02:39.3822 => Sending: 02 03 60 00 00 02 DA 38 
              09:02:39.4022 <= Receiving: 6D D5 
              09:02:39.4022 Timeout
              09:02:39.4222 => Sending: 03 03 50 12 00 02 74 EC 
              09:02:39.4422 <= Receiving: 6D D5 
              09:02:39.4422 Timeout
              09:02:39.4522 => Sending: 03 03 50 12 00 02 74 EC 
              09:02:39.4722 <= Receiving: 68 5B 
              09:02:39.4722 Timeout
              09:02:39.4822 => Sending: 03 03 50 12 00 02 74 EC 
              09:02:39.5022 <= Receiving: 68 5B 
              09:02:39.5022 Timeout
              09:02:39.5222 => Sending: 03 03 60 00 00 02 DB E9 
              09:02:39.5422 <= Receiving: 68 5B 
              09:02:39.5422 Timeout
              09:02:39.5522 => Sending: 03 03 60 00 00 02 DB E9 
              09:02:39.5722 <= Receiving: F3 8F 
              09:02:39.5722 Timeout
              09:02:39.5822 => Sending: 03 03 60 00 00 02 DB E9 
              09:02:39.6032 <= Receiving: F3 8F 
              09:02:39.6032 Timeout
              09:02:39.6282 => Sending: 01 03 50 02 00 06 75 08 
              09:02:39.6482 <= Receiving: F3 8F 
              09:02:39.6482 Timeout
              09:02:39.6582 => Sending: 01 03 50 02 00 06 75 08 
              09:02:39.6892 <= Receiving: CD 
              09:02:39.6892 Timeout
              09:02:39.6992 => Sending: 01 03 50 02 00 06 75 08 
              09:02:39.7692 Timeout
              09:02:39.7892 => Sending: 01 03 50 12 00 02 75 0E 
              09:02:39.7892 <= Receiving: 43 73 00 00 43 
              09:02:39.7892 <= Receiving: 72 99 9A A3 
              09:02:39.7892 Wrong telegram: ???
              09:02:39.7992 => Sending: 01 03 50 12 00 02 75 0E 
              09:02:39.8692 Timeout
              09:02:39.8792 => Sending: 01 03 50 12 00 02 75 0E 
              09:02:39.9492 Timeout
              09:02:39.9692 => Sending: 01 03 60 0C 00 02 1A 08 
              09:02:39.9892 <= Receiving: 5C 1B EE 
              09:02:39.9892 Timeout
              09:02:39.9992 => Sending: 01 03 60 0C 00 02 1A 08 
              09:02:40.0292 <= Receiving: 3D 
              09:02:40.0292 Timeout
              09:02:40.0392 => Sending: 01 03 60 0C 00 02 1A 08 
              09:02:40.1092 Timeout
              09:02:40.1292 => Sending: 01 03 60 18 00 02 5A 0C 
              09:02:40.1492 <= Receiving: 00 5C 
              09:02:40.1492 Timeout
              09:02:40.1592 => Sending: 01 03 60 18 00 02 5A 0C 
              09:02:40.1792 <= Receiving: 69 26 
              09:02:40.1792 Timeout
              09:02:40.1892 => Sending: 01 03 60 18 00 02 5A 0C 
              09:02:40.2212 <= Receiving: 69 26 
              09:02:40.2212 Timeout
              09:02:40.2412 => Sending: 02 03 50 12 00 02 75 3D 
              09:02:40.2612 <= Receiving: 52 69 26 
              09:02:40.2612 Timeout
              09:02:40.2712 => Sending: 02 03 50 12 00 02 75 3D 
              09:02:40.2912 <= Receiving: DD 3E 
              09:02:40.2912 Timeout
              09:02:40.3012 => Sending: 02 03 50 12 00 02 75 3D 
              09:02:40.3212 <= Receiving: DD 3E 
              09:02:40.3212 Timeout
              09:02:40.3412 => Sending: 02 03 60 00 00 02 DA 38 
              09:02:40.3612 <= Receiving: DD 3E 
              09:02:40.3612 Timeout
              09:02:40.3712 => Sending: 02 03 60 00 00 02 DA 38 
              09:02:40.4032 <= Receiving: 6D D5 
              09:02:40.4032 Timeout
              09:02:40.4132 => Sending: 02 03 60 00 00 02 DA 38 
              09:02:40.4332 <= Receiving: 6D D5 
              09:02:40.4332 Timeout
              09:02:40.4532 => Sending: 03 03 50 12 00 02 74 EC 
              09:02:40.4732 <= Receiving: 6D D5 
              09:02:40.4732 Timeout
              09:02:40.4832 => Sending: 03 03 50 12 00 02 74 EC 
              09:02:40.5032 <= Receiving: 68 5B 
              09:02:40.5032 Timeout
              09:02:40.5132 => Sending: 03 03 50 12 00 02 74 EC 
              09:02:40.5332 <= Receiving: 68 5B 
              09:02:40.5332 Timeout
              

              Many thanks in advance for your help and kind regards

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                tomas_hora administrators last edited by

                @pascal37 said in M525 stopped working:

                cat /run/unipi/io_group1/uart_config

                Did you run this command when you received the Timeout or afer you restarted it?

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                  pascal37 last edited by

                  The command was run while serial communication timeouts, but output is the same after a PLC restart.

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                      tomas_hora administrators last edited by tomas_hora

                      @pascal37 Can you try increasing the Max telegram duration a bit higher? For example 300ms? If that won't help. You can also try to increase the pause between telegrams to 5ms.

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                        pascal37 @tomas_hora last edited by

                        Hi @tomas_hora,

                        I have increased Max telegram duration to 300ms + added a 5ms pause between telegrams.

                        I have also update my M525 to latest Axon runtime (2.3.0.8) with latest firmwares/drivers.

                        I will let you know if issue occurs again.
                        Many thanks and kind regards.

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                          pascal37 @pascal37 last edited by pascal37

                          Hi @tomas_hora, issue occured again again with port 1.1 and new settings (Max telegram duration to 300ms + added a 5ms pause between telegrams.)
                          A simple PLC reboot (from Debian OS) was enough to regain data acquisition from the 3 Inepro PRO380 meters.

                          I do not understand why problem never occured when using port 1.3 of same PLC, nor with my previous M505.
                          What is the difference between ports 1.1 and 1.3 ?
                          If same hardware, could it be a hardware issue with port 1.1 on my M525?

                          22:13:08.5230 => Send: 03 03 60 00 00 02 DB E9 
                          22:13:08.5530 <= Recv: CA CB 
                          22:13:08.5530 Timeout
                          22:13:08.5630 => Send: 03 03 60 00 00 02 DB E9 
                          22:13:08.5930 <= Recv: CA CB 
                          22:13:08.5930 Timeout
                          22:13:08.6230 => Send: 01 03 50 02 00 06 75 08 
                          22:13:08.6530 <= Recv: CA CB 
                          22:13:08.6530 Timeout
                          22:13:08.6630 => Send: 01 03 50 02 00 06 75 08 
                          22:13:08.6630 <= Recv: 43 71 CC CD 43 
                          22:13:08.7040 <= Recv: 72 E6 66 
                          22:13:08.7040 Wrong telegram: ???
                          22:13:08.7140 => Send: 01 03 50 02 00 06 75 08 
                          22:13:09.0140 Timeout
                          22:13:09.0390 => Send: 01 03 50 12 00 02 75 0E 
                          22:13:09.0390 <= Recv: 43 71 CC CD 43 
                          22:13:09.0390 <= Recv: 72 E6 66 52 
                          22:13:09.0390 Wrong telegram: ???
                          22:13:09.0490 => Send: 01 03 50 12 00 02 75 0E 
                          22:13:09.3490 Timeout
                          22:13:09.3590 => Send: 01 03 50 12 00 02 75 0E 
                          22:13:09.3890 <= Recv: 4B E3 
                          22:13:09.3890 Timeout
                          22:13:09.4140 => Send: 01 03 60 0C 00 02 1A 08 
                          22:13:09.4440 <= Recv: EC 4B E3 
                          22:13:09.4440 Timeout
                          22:13:09.4540 => Send: 01 03 60 0C 00 02 1A 08 
                          22:13:09.4840 <= Recv: CC D8 
                          22:13:09.4840 Timeout
                          22:13:09.4940 => Send: 01 03 60 0C 00 02 1A 08 
                          22:13:09.5240 <= Recv: CC D8 
                          22:13:09.5240 Timeout
                          22:13:09.5490 => Send: 01 03 60 18 00 02 5A 0C 
                          22:13:09.5790 <= Recv: CC D8 
                          22:13:09.5790 Timeout
                          22:13:09.5890 => Send: 01 03 60 18 00 02 5A 0C 
                          22:13:09.6190 <= Recv: 72 00 
                          22:13:09.6190 Timeout
                          22:13:09.6290 => Send: 01 03 60 18 00 02 5A 0C 
                          22:13:09.6590 <= Recv: 72 00 
                          22:13:09.6590 Timeout
                          22:13:09.6840 => Send: 02 03 50 12 00 02 75 3D 
                          22:13:09.7140 <= Recv: 72 00 
                          22:13:09.7140 Timeout
                          22:13:09.7240 => Send: 02 03 50 12 00 02 75 3D 
                          22:13:09.7540 <= Recv: 46 88 
                          22:13:09.7540 Timeout
                          22:13:09.7640 => Send: 02 03 50 12 00 02 75 3D 
                          22:13:09.7940 <= Recv: 46 88 
                          22:13:09.7940 Timeout
                          22:13:09.8190 => Send: 02 03 60 00 00 02 DA 38 
                          22:13:09.8490 <= Recv: 46 88 
                          22:13:09.8490 Timeout
                          22:13:09.8590 => Send: 02 03 60 00 00 02 DA 38 
                          22:13:09.8890 <= Recv: 85 9B 
                          22:13:09.8890 Timeout
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                          22:13:09.9290 <= Recv: 85 9B 
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                          22:13:09.9840 <= Recv: 85 9B 
                          22:13:09.9840 Timeout
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                          22:13:10.0240 <= Recv: 68 5B 
                          22:13:10.0240 Timeout
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                          22:13:10.0640 <= Recv: 68 5B 
                          22:13:10.0640 Timeout
                          22:13:10.0890 => Send: 03 03 60 00 00 02 DB E9 
                          22:13:10.1190 <= Recv: 68 5B 
                          22:13:10.1190 Timeout
                          22:13:10.1290 => Send: 03 03 60 00 00 02 DB E9 
                          22:13:10.1700 <= Recv: 04 
                          22:13:10.1700 Timeout
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                          22:13:10.4800 Timeout
                          22:13:10.5100 => Send: 01 03 50 02 00 06 75 08 
                          22:13:10.5623 <= Recv: CA CB 
                          22:13:10.5623 Timeout
                          22:13:10.5723 => Send: 01 03 50 02 00 06 75 08 
                          22:13:10.5723 <= Recv: 43 71 CC CD 43 
                          22:13:10.6133 <= Recv: 72 E6 66 52 
                          22:13:10.6133 Wrong telegram: ???
                          22:13:10.6233 => Send: 01 03 50 02 00 06 75 08 
                          22:13:10.9233 Timeout
                          22:13:10.9483 => Send: 01 03 50 12 00 02 75 0E 
                          22:13:10.9483 <= Recv: 43 71 CC CD 43 
                          22:13:10.9483 <= Recv: 72 E6 66 52 
                          22:13:10.9483 Wrong telegram: ???
                          22:13:10.9583 => Send: 01 03 50 12 00 02 75 0E 
                          22:13:11.2583 Timeout
                          22:13:11.2683 => Send: 01 03 50 12 00 02 75 0E 
                          22:13:11.2993 <= Recv: 4B E3 
                          22:13:11.2993 Timeout
                          22:13:11.3243 => Send: 01 03 60 0C 00 02 1A 08 
                          22:13:11.3543 <= Recv: 4B E3 
                          22:13:11.3543 Timeout
                          22:13:11.3643 => Send: 01 03 60 0C 00 02 1A 08 
                          22:13:11.3943 <= Recv: CC D8 
                          22:13:11.3943 Timeout
                          22:13:11.4043 => Send: 01 03 60 0C 00 02 1A 08 
                          22:13:11.4343 <= Recv: CC D8 
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                          22:13:11.4593 => Send: 01 03 60 18 00 02 5A 0C 
                          22:13:11.4893 <= Recv: CC D8 
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                          22:13:11.4993 => Send: 01 03 60 18 00 02 5A 0C 
                          22:13:11.5293 <= Recv: 72 00 
                          22:13:11.5293 Timeout
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                          22:13:11.5693 <= Recv: E1 72 00 
                          22:13:11.5693 Timeout
                          22:13:11.5943 => Send: 02 03 50 12 00 02 75 3D 
                          22:13:11.6243 <= Recv: 72 00 
                          22:13:11.6243 Timeout
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                          22:13:11.6643 <= Recv: 46 88 
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                          22:13:11.7043 <= Recv: 46 88 
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                          22:13:11.7593 <= Recv: 46 88 
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                          22:13:11.7693 => Send: 02 03 60 00 00 02 DA 38 
                          22:13:11.7993 <= Recv: 85 9B 
                          22:13:11.7993 Timeout
                          22:13:11.8093 => Send: 02 03 60 00 00 02 DA 38 
                          22:13:11.8393 <= Recv: 85 9B 
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                          22:13:11.8643 => Send: 03 03 50 12 00 02 74 EC 
                          22:13:11.8943 <= Recv: 85 9B 
                          22:13:11.8943 Timeout
                          22:13:11.9043 => Send: 03 03 50 12 00 02 74 EC 
                          22:13:11.9343 <= Recv: 68 5B 
                          22:13:11.9343 Timeout
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                          22:13:11.9743 <= Recv: 68 5B 
                          22:13:11.9743 Timeout
                          22:13:11.9993 => Send: 03 03 60 00 00 02 DB E9 
                          22:13:12.0293 <= Recv: 68 5B 
                          22:13:12.0293 Timeout
                          22:13:12.0393 => Send: 03 03 60 00 00 02 DB E9 
                          22:13:12.0693 <= Recv: CA CB 
                          22:13:12.0693 Timeout
                          22:13:12.0793 => Send: 03 03 60 00 00 02 DB E9 
                          22:13:12.1093 <= Recv: CA CB 
                          22:13:12.1093 Timeout
                          22:13:12.1393 => Send: 01 03 50 02 00 06 75 08 
                          22:13:12.1693 <= Recv: CA CB 
                          22:13:12.1693 Timeout
                          22:13:12.1793 => Send: 01 03 50 02 00 06 75 08 
                          22:13:12.1793 <= Recv: 43 71 B3 33 43 
                          22:13:12.2193 <= Recv: 72 E6 66 70 
                          22:13:12.2193 Wrong telegram: ???
                          22:13:12.2293 => Send: 01 03 50 02 00 06 75 08 
                          22:13:12.5293 Timeout
                          22:13:12.5543 => Send: 01 03 50 12 00 02 75 0E 
                          22:13:12.5543 <= Recv: 43 71 B3 33 43 
                          22:13:12.5543 <= Recv: 72 E6 66 70 
                          22:13:12.5543 Wrong telegram: ???
                          22:13:12.5643 => Send: 01 03 50 12 00 02 75 0E 
                          22:13:12.8643 Timeout
                          22:13:12.8743 => Send: 01 03 50 12 00 02 75 0E 
                          22:13:12.9043 <= Recv: 4B E3 
                          22:13:12.9043 Timeout
                          22:13:12.9293 => Send: 01 03 60 0C 00 02 1A 08 
                          22:13:12.9593 <= Recv: 4B E3 
                          22:13:12.9593 Timeout
                          22:13:12.9693 => Send: 01 03 60 0C 00 02 1A 08 
                          22:13:12.9993 <= Recv: CC D8 
                          22:13:12.9993 Timeout
                          22:13:13.0093 => Send: 01 03 60 0C 00 02 1A 08 
                          22:13:13.0393 <= Recv: CC D8 
                          22:13:13.0393 Timeout
                          22:13:13.0643 => Send: 01 03 60 18 00 02 5A 0C 
                          22:13:13.0943 <= Recv: CC D8 
                          22:13:13.0943 Timeout
                          22:13:13.1043 => Send: 01 03 60 18 00 02 5A 0C 
                          22:13:13.1557 <= Recv: 72 00 
                          22:13:13.1557 Timeout
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                          22:13:13.1957 <= Recv: 72 00 
                          22:13:13.1957 Timeout
                          22:13:13.2207 => Send: 02 03 50 12 00 02 75 3D 
                          22:13:13.2507 <= Recv: 72 00 
                          22:13:13.2507 Timeout
                          22:13:13.2607 => Send: 02 03 50 12 00 02 75 3D 
                          22:13:13.2907 <= Recv: 46 88 
                          22:13:13.2907 Timeout
                          22:13:13.3007 => Send: 02 03 50 12 00 02 75 3D 
                          22:13:13.3307 <= Recv: 46 88 
                          22:13:13.3307 Timeout
                          22:13:13.3557 => Send: 02 03 60 00 00 02 DA 38 
                          22:13:13.3857 <= Recv: 46 88 
                          22:13:13.3857 Timeout
                          22:13:13.3957 => Send: 02 03 60 00 00 02 DA 38 
                          22:13:13.4257 <= Recv: 85 9B 
                          22:13:13.4257 Timeout
                          22:13:13.4357 => Send: 02 03 60 00 00 02 DA 38 
                          22:13:13.4657 <= Recv: 85 9B 
                          22:13:13.4657 Timeout
                          22:13:13.4907 => Send: 03 03 50 12 00 02 74 EC 
                          22:13:13.5207 <= Recv: 85 9B 
                          22:13:13.5207 Timeout
                          22:13:13.5307 => Send: 03 03 50 12 00 02 74 EC 
                          22:13:13.5607 <= Recv: 68 5B 
                          22:13:13.5607 Timeout
                          22:13:13.5707 => Send: 03 03 50 12 00 02 74 EC 
                          22:13:13.6007 <= Recv: 68 5B 
                          22:13:13.6007 Timeout
                          22:13:13.6257 => Send: 03 03 60 00 00 02 DB E9 
                          22:13:13.6557 <= Recv: 68 5B 
                          22:13:13.6557 Timeout
                          22:13:13.6657 => Send: 03 03 60 00 00 02 DB E9 
                          22:13:13.6957 <= Recv: CA CB 
                          22:13:13.6957 Timeout
                          22:13:13.7057 => Send: 03 03 60 00 00 02 DB E9 
                          22:13:13.7357 <= Recv: 0A CA CB 
                          22:13:13.7357 Timeout
                          22:13:13.7657 => Send: 01 03 50 02 00 06 75 08 
                          22:13:13.7957 <= Recv: CA CB 
                          22:13:13.7957 Timeout
                          22:13:13.8057 => Send: 01 03 50 02 00 06 75 08 
                          22:13:13.8057 <= Recv: 43 71 CC CD 43 
                          22:13:13.8447 <= Recv: 72 CC CD BF 07 
                          22:13:13.8447 Wrong telegram: ???
                          22:13:13.8547 => Send: 01 03 50 02 00 06 75 08 
                          22:13:13.8547 <= Recv: 43 71 CC CD 43 
                          22:13:13.8847 <= Recv: 72 CC CD BF 07 
                          22:13:13.8847 Wrong telegram: ???
                          22:13:13.9097 => Send: 01 03 50 12 00 02 75 0E 
                          22:13:13.9097 <= Recv: 43 71 CC CD 43 
                          22:13:13.9097 <= Recv: 72 CC CD BF 
                          22:13:13.9097 Wrong telegram: ???
                          22:13:13.9197 => Send: 01 03 50 12 00 02 75 0E 
                          22:13:14.2197 Timeout
                          22:13:14.2297 => Send: 01 03 50 12 00 02 75 0E 
                          22:13:14.2597 <= Recv: 4B E3 
                          22:13:14.2597 Timeout
                          22:13:14.2847 => Send: 01 03 60 0C 00 02 1A 08 
                          22:13:14.3147 <= Recv: 4B E3 
                          22:13:14.3147 Timeout
                          22:13:14.3247 => Send: 01 03 60 0C 00 02 1A 08 
                          22:13:14.3547 <= Recv: CC D8 
                          22:13:14.3547 Timeout
                          22:13:14.3647 => Send: 01 03 60 0C 00 02 1A 08 
                          22:13:14.3947 <= Recv: CC D8 
                          22:13:14.3947 Timeout
                          22:13:14.4197 => Send: 01 03 60 18 00 02 5A 0C 
                          22:13:14.4497 <= Recv: CC D8 
                          22:13:14.4497 Timeout
                          22:13:14.4597 => Send: 01 03 60 18 00 02 5A 0C 
                          22:13:14.4897 <= Recv: 72 00 
                          22:13:14.4897 Timeout
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                          22:13:14.5297 <= Recv: 72 00 
                          22:13:14.5297 Timeout
                          22:13:14.5547 => Send: 02 03 50 12 00 02 75 3D 
                          22:13:14.5847 <= Recv: 72 00 
                          22:13:14.5847 Timeout
                          22:13:14.5947 => Send: 02 03 50 12 00 02 75 3D 
                          22:13:14.6247 <= Recv: 46 88 
                          22:13:14.6247 Timeout
                          22:13:14.6347 => Send: 02 03 50 12 00 02 75 3D 
                          22:13:14.6647 <= Recv: 46 88 
                          22:13:14.6647 Timeout
                          22:13:14.6897 => Send: 02 03 60 00 00 02 DA 38 
                          22:13:14.7197 <= Recv: 46 88 
                          22:13:14.7197 Timeout
                          22:13:14.7297 => Send: 02 03 60 00 00 02 DA 38 
                          22:13:14.7597 <= Recv: 85 9B 
                          22:13:14.7597 Timeout
                          22:13:14.7697 => Send: 02 03 60 00 00 02 DA 38 
                          22:13:14.7997 <= Recv: 85 9B 
                          22:13:14.7997 Timeout
                          22:13:14.8247 => Send: 03 03 50 12 00 02 74 EC 
                          22:13:14.8547 <= Recv: 85 9B 
                          22:13:14.8547 Timeout
                          22:13:14.8647 => Send: 03 03 50 12 00 02 74 EC 
                          22:13:14.8947 <= Recv: 68 5B 
                          22:13:14.9166 Timeout
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                          22:13:14.9566 <= Recv: 68 5B 
                          22:13:14.9566 Timeout
                          22:13:14.9816 => Send: 03 03 60 00 00 02 DB E9 
                          22:13:15.0116 <= Recv: 68 5B 
                          22:13:15.0116 Timeout
                          22:13:15.0216 => Send: 03 03 60 00 00 02 DB E9 
                          22:13:15.0516 <= Recv: CA CB 
                          22:13:15.0516 Timeout
                          22:13:15.0616 => Send: 03 03 60 00 00 02 DB E9 
                          22:13:15.0916 <= Recv: CA CB 
                          22:13:15.0916 Timeout
                          22:13:15.1216 => Send: 01 03 50 02 00 06 75 08 
                          22:13:15.1516 <= Recv: CA CB 
                          22:13:15.1516 Timeout
                          22:13:15.1616 => Send: 01 03 50 02 00 06 75 08 
                          22:13:15.1616 <= Recv: 43 71 B3 33 43 
                          22:13:15.2016 <= Recv: 72 E6 66 C3 C3 
                          22:13:15.2016 Wrong telegram: ???
                          22:13:15.2116 => Send: 01 03 50 02 00 06 75 08 
                          22:13:15.2116 <= Recv: 43 71 B3 33 43 
                          22:13:15.2416 <= Recv: 72 E6 66 C3 C3 
                          22:13:15.2416 Wrong telegram: ???
                          22:13:15.2666 => Send: 01 03 50 12 00 02 75 0E 
                          22:13:15.2666 <= Recv: 43 71 B3 33 43 
                          22:13:15.2666 <= Recv: 72 E6 66 C3 
                          22:13:15.2666 Wrong telegram: ???
                          22:13:15.2766 => Send: 01 03 50 12 00 02 75 0E 
                          22:13:15.5766 Timeout
                          22:13:15.5866 => Send: 01 03 50 12 00 02 75 0E 
                          22:13:15.6166 <= Recv: 4B E3 
                          22:13:15.6166 Timeout
                          22:13:15.6416 => Send: 01 03 60 0C 00 02 1A 08 
                          22:13:15.6716 <= Recv: 4B E3 
                          22:13:15.6716 Timeout
                          22:13:15.6816 => Send: 01 03 60 0C 00 02 1A 08 
                          22:13:15.7116 <= Recv: CC D8 
                          22:13:15.7116 Timeout
                          22:13:15.7216 => Send: 01 03 60 0C 00 02 1A 08 
                          22:13:15.7516 <= Recv: CC D8 
                          22:13:15.7516 Timeout
                          22:13:15.7766 => Send: 01 03 60 18 00 02 5A 0C 
                          22:13:15.8066 <= Recv: CC D8 
                          22:13:15.8066 Timeout
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                          22:13:15.8466 <= Recv: 72 00 
                          22:13:15.8466 Timeout
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                          22:13:15.8866 <= Recv: 72 00 
                          22:13:15.8866 Timeout
                          22:13:15.9116 => Send: 02 03 50 12 00 02 75 3D 
                          22:13:15.9416 <= Recv: 72 00 
                          22:13:15.9416 Timeout
                          22:13:15.9516 => Send: 02 03 50 12 00 02 75 3D 
                          22:13:15.9926 <= Recv: 04 
                          22:13:15.9926 Timeout
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                          22:13:16.3276 => Send: 02 03 60 00 00 02 DA 38 
                          22:13:16.3576 <= Recv: 46 88 
                          22:13:16.3576 Timeout
                          22:13:16.3676 => Send: 02 03 60 00 00 02 DA 38 
                          22:13:16.3976 <= Recv: 85 9B 
                          22:13:16.3976 Timeout
                          22:13:16.4076 => Send: 02 03 60 00 00 02 DA 38 
                          22:13:16.4376 <= Recv: 85 9B 
                          22:13:16.4376 Timeout
                          22:13:16.4626 => Send: 03 03 50 12 00 02 74 EC 
                          22:13:16.4926 <= Recv: 85 9B 
                          22:13:16.4926 Timeout
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                          22:13:16.5326 <= Recv: 68 5B 
                          22:13:16.5326 Timeout
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                          22:13:16.5726 <= Recv: 68 5B 
                          22:13:16.5726 Timeout
                          22:13:16.5976 => Send: 03 03 60 00 00 02 DB E9 
                          22:13:16.6276 <= Recv: 68 5B 
                          22:13:16.6276 Timeout
                          22:13:16.6376 => Send: 03 03 60 00 00 02 DB E9 
                          22:13:16.6676 <= Recv: CA CB 
                          22:13:16.6676 Timeout
                          22:13:16.6776 => Send: 03 03 60 00 00 02 DB E9 
                          22:13:16.7076 <= Recv: CA CB 
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                          22:13:16.7376 => Send: 01 03 50 02 00 06 75 08 
                          22:13:16.7686 <= Recv: CA CB 
                          22:13:16.7686 Timeout
                          
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                            martin_triska administrators last edited by

                            Hello @pascal37,

                            thank you for the information sent. Unfortunately, based on it, we are not able to determine the exact source of the issue.
                            Can you please check the following:

                            1. Again, make sure you have the latest firmware in the I/O board flashed. Type:
                            /opt/unipi/tools/fwspi -i 0
                            
                            1. Can you confirm that the i2c-0 error in the dmesg log appears always in the moment of communication goes wrong? It seems there is a correlation (863475 seconds is almost exactly 10 days).

                            2. Are you sure that no other running processes access the interface (/dev/ttyNS0)? Please check also your time-scheduled tasks (e.g. executed from cron).

                            3. Are you sure that no noise or interference from the environment or power supply can infiltrate the unit?

                            As the last resort, we are able to simulate your application with the same HW, but it will be pretty time-consuming. In the meantime, please use another RS485 interface.

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                              pascal37 @martin_triska last edited by pascal37

                              Hi @martin_triska,

                              1. I did a reflash (USB method) of my M525 with latest Mervis OS image (2.3.0.10), firmwares are already up-to-date:
                              unipi@M525-sn8:~$ sudo /opt/unipi/tools/fwspi -i 0
                              Boardset:     0 B-1000                         (v1.0)
                              Baseboard:    0 B-1000                         (v2.0)
                              Firmware: v5.50
                              unipi@M525-sn8:~$ sudo /opt/unipi/tools/fwspi -i 1
                              Boardset:    19 E-4Ai4Ao_U-R485Di4Ro5          (v1.0)
                              Baseboard:   11 E-4Ai4Ao                       (v1.0)
                              Firmware: v5.50
                              
                              1. From what I've seen after serial communications "crashes", I did not see anymore an i2c-0 error in demsg, so I am not sure this is correlated.

                              2. Yes: it is a standard Mervis OS image + 2 pythons scripts running as daemons with pymodbus client over ModbusTCP, so no serial communications there.

                              3. Yes: I am using shielded cable specific for RS485, the bus is properly terminated at each end. Cable shield is properly grounded at PLC side and also to PLC itself. Environment is stable and, so long the issue is not occurring, communication is working perfectly.
                                With the increase of Max telegram duration to 300ms, there is absolutely no error during multiple days:

                              PLC_status.JPG

                              It seems most likely a driver or Mervis runtime issue related to M525 model and port 1.1 !?
                              As I said, I never had the issue when using port 1.3 instead of port 1.1
                              I have also another RS485 bus on port 2.1 and no issue either.
                              This issue also never occurred with port 1.1 on my previous M505 PLC

                              If you want to try reproduce the issue, you need 3 Inepro PRO380 meters and read constantly multiple values from them like power, energy, voltage.
                              In my case, the maximum uptime before a crash is about 10 days.

                              I can use port 1.3 in the meantime, but I will need the 3rd RS485 port later for my project...
                              But let's check again if it is really stable with port 1.3 over >10 days !

                              Many thanks in advance and kind regards

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                                pascal37 @pascal37 last edited by pascal37

                                Hi @martin_triska,

                                I confirm the solution is stable over >50 days when using port 1.3 :

                                uptime.jpeg

                                ... but not with port 1.1, where serial communications crashes < 10 days !
                                If you did not find a software issue related to port RS485-1.1 on Axon M525, there should be a hardware issue with my PLC !

                                I have bought this PLC because I need 3 RS485 ports, so using port 1.3 over 1.1 is not a solution...

                                Can you please replace this unit ?
                                Many thanks in advance and kind regards,

                                Pascal

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                                  martin_triska administrators last edited by

                                  Hello @pascal37,

                                  thank you for the feedback. So, let us sum it up:

                                  1. On ports other than 1.1, you've never seen the issue yet (tested over 50 days without reboot).
                                  2. On port 1.1, the issue appears always in a few (approx. 10) days.
                                  3. There is no correlation with any item in the system log (dmesg) recorded in the moment of failure.
                                  4. Flash to the latest version 5.50 has not solved it.
                                  5. An older PLC M505 does not have this problem (is the FW and image versions in it also the latest?)

                                  If so, you are right - it seems to the issue is hardware-based and the unit has to be replaced.

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                                    pascal37 @martin_triska last edited by

                                    Hi @martin_triska,

                                    Yes, that sums up the situation well, so I'll write to support@unipi.technology for replacement request.

                                    Many thanks,

                                    Pascal

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